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David Roberts's avatar

I really enjoyed this post. And brilliant to use Telemachus as the OG boy bereft of a father. I have two adult sons, 33 and 30, and I was lucky enough to be around for them and continue to be around for then as we are all in NYC.

One of my favorite poems is Tennyson's Ulysses, which is probably one of the favorite poems of many. I thought about how in that poem, Odysseus gets bored at home and decides to once again go wandering.

"There goes Dad again," I can hear Telemachus saying!

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Joshua Doležal's avatar

Interestingly, I just bought Emily Wilson's translation of The Odyssey for my daughter, who is obsessed with Greek mythology. Though I don't think she ponders the crisis of manhood as she reads! Instead, she has been steeped in empowering narratives like the Rebel Girls series. And she loves Disney films like "Brave," which erect the straw opponent of distant patriarchy only to demolish it with the easy plot of girl power. That's all mostly good for my daughter. I want her to grow up with all doors open to her. But it is not necessarily good for my son, who may someday see himself -- unfairly -- in the role of the oppressor that so many feminist narratives reinforce.

I'd like to hear more stories about men like Marty Ginsberg. How did he navigate the shift from conventional expectations to the more supportive role that he played in his marriage to RGB? Latham is right -- we need guides for those pivots. It's not automatic or obvious.

Every young man is Telemachus, indeed. But many of us who lacked guides in our youth, or who were taught things about masculinity that we try to unlearn, never stop being Telemachus. As a man in the midst of divorce, I feel this keenly. Thanks for keeping the conversation going.

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